[identity profile] lovinthelads.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] crinkly_ears
So, randomness because I'm bored and awake at the butt crack of dawn nursing the stray kitten I've taken in, and I came across this series of tweets from Sergio:



"Buenos días a tod@s. Me gustaría aclarar un par de cosas antes de que se hablen más mentiras y sigan inventando.

"Mesut es un gran amigo y le dije hace tiempo que mi primer gol de la temporada seria para él y aprovechando su cambio me puse su camiseta.."

"
..confiando que podría ser mi primer gol. Nada más."

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Por otra parte, mi relacion con Mourinho es buena,honesta y clara. Respeto sus decisiones y es para mí el mejor entrenador. Hala madrid..!!"


Loosely (google) translated: "
Good morning to everyone s. I would like to clarify a few things before you speak and keep inventing more lies. Mesut is a great friend and I said long ago that my first goal of the season would be for him and making her change her shirt .. I started trusting that could be my first goal. Nothing more. Moreover, my relationship with Mourinho is good, honest and clear. Respect their decisions and I am the best coach. Hala madrid ..!"

Yes, we know you love Mesut, aw, so sweet to dedicate a goal, but you lost me on the "making her change her shirt"

While I'll allow for google translate and bad grammar, I'm not sure why Mesut needs a new shirt?

I mean, yes, bb is fashion impaired, as so wonderfully proven by [livejournal.com profile] ninkki last week, but...

WE NEED SOME PHOTOS, STAT.

Anyone?  Anything?  Bueller?

X



EDIT!!!!!!

Tumblr never lets us down- right- so here's the story he's responding to:

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He was wearing Mesu's shirt under his own at the MATCH

*wells up*

THAT'S SO SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X


Date: 2012-10-02 12:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] flywoman.livejournal.com
"Mesut is a great friend and I said long ago that my first goal of the season would be for him and taking advantage of his substitution I put on his shirt..."

Sergio is a total sweetheart to his teammates.

Date: 2012-10-02 02:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
*sniffle*

We must also consider: because Sergio is so big, he needs a smaller shirt to fit under his own...

*sobs*

This was the subject of [livejournal.com profile] meowlizz's post but she erased it in frustration because LJ would not allow her to be great!

Date: 2012-10-03 01:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meowlizz.livejournal.com
Yeah....that's right...but someone could do it finally...great!!

Date: 2012-10-03 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
I tried to explain in the comments but I think it got "lost in translation"

Your < img src="" > (take away the spaces) had to be written in the html editor (there are two boxes in which you make the posts - html and rich text editor).

All you had to do was copy and paste the code into the right editor. In the html editor it would show as code. In the rich text editor it shows as a picture.

I'm trying to build spams for the past few games and having an awful time though - I mean, even doing it "the right way" doesn't work. When I've written the code it doesn't allow half the pics to show. I nearly screamed with frustration yesterday and gave up.

It was making the migraine worse!

Date: 2012-10-02 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliechaz.livejournal.com
Is the wearing of another teammates jersey a common practice?

Date: 2012-10-02 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
Nope! Of course they are very good friends...so it's not completely implausible.

And they wear the same stuff all the time:

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But here's Marca's version of what happened ;) courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] andriy_7

It seems Sergio Ramos is not scared of his manager, José Mourinho. The Spain international continues to battle it out with the Portuguese and the latest test of the coach's patience came in the game on Sunday against Deportivo de La Coruña. Ramos played the second half wearing Mesut Özil's team shirt underneath his own with the intention of revealing it to the Bernabéu faithful if he scored a goal as a gesture of solidarity.

Mourinho had taken off German playmaker Özil at halftime after the coach had had some harsh words with the player from the sidelines in the first half. The Portuguese continued to tear into his player in the changing room and made the decision to replace him with Kaká. It seemed Ramos wanted to support his teammate by playing the whole of the second half wearing Özil’s team shirt underneath his own to dedicate him a goal.

The centre-back – who played as a stand-in full-back against Deportivo – eagerly sought to score from every dead-ball situation and every time Real penetrated the opposing penalty area. But he returned to the changing room empty-handed and was therefore unable to dedicate the German a goal.

Ramos, who was dropped for the game against Manchester City as a punishment, is not the type to bite his tongue when it comes to contesting his manager's jibes at recent press conferences.

After the player's return to action in the game against Rayo Vallecano, the defender told journalists: "I don't know if I was dropped as a punishment or for tactical reasons. That question is not for me to answer. I usually resolve these things behind closed doors".


It is actually true that Mourinho was screaming abuse (some of it obscene). Cuatro had their lip-readers out and he yelled at Mesut for most of the first half. Not sure why; I thought he played very well, actually.

So it isn't a stretch he was cursing and yelling in the locker-room either.

I'd have wasted my breath shouting at Marcelo for that appalling concession, but what do I know?

The boys have been very loyal on Twitter, of course (here's Mesut) -

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So we'll have to see if Mourinho is as loyal as they've been, won't we?
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 03:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] die4shin-sin.livejournal.com
I tear up reading this. I haven't been able to watch their past matches, only heard about bitter things such as Papa's need of anger management class and Sergio. I believe both Mou and Sergio are highly capable of being professional, I just hope this won't get any more tense (the medias are doing a real great job giving us heart-attacks and heartaches, srsly.)

Other than that, Sergio is too damn sweet. My love for him just went up a notch!

Date: 2012-10-03 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
Sergio is Sergio. Trying to suppress his personality won't do any good and if Jose has any sense he won't try.

No point to it either - he's the perfect professional on the pitch. No coach could ask for more.

Mou is at it again?

Date: 2012-10-02 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enx123.livejournal.com
Poor Mesut! :(
Well discipline should be good sometimes, right? But he played well during that game soo I don't understand why was discipline/screaming at him necessary at that time?

Aarrrggghhh I dunno!

But a lovely gesture by Sergio! :)

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He is always trying to help! Make things better.
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And he knows that a great home made meal always makes people feel better :) (I know that's clay but.. :D still)
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M1Ö got a great neighbour! :) (sorry for the Sergio spam :P)
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 04:33 pm (UTC)

Re: Mou is at it again?

Date: 2012-10-02 04:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
Never apologize for a Sergio spam.

I know he's at the centre of a lot of "scandal" at the moment, but Sergio is easily Madrid's most lovable personality. He's just lovely - lovely to everyone, welcoming to new players, kind to his teammates, kind in practice, kind to opposition teammates (always hugging and welcoming them - and, even after very ill-tempered matches, going over to the centre circle to say hello) and extremely loyal to the club. He's a club icon already for a reason.

He's so entirely lovable, kind - and although he's hot-tempered on the pitch he's a sweet, sweet boy off of it.

Re: Mou is at it again?

Date: 2012-10-03 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorzil.livejournal.com
Love your spam! No need to apologise! It made me smile, it's so sweet :D

Date: 2012-10-02 03:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorzil.livejournal.com
Wow that's really sweet, and somewhat defiant.
The Serzil bromance is real:D of course we've all seen photo's and stuff from Mesut and Sergio before but now it's undeniable!
And of course the piece written in Marca is dramatized but a part of me is imaging poor little Mesut getting a somewhat harsh lecture from Mou. Mesut gets angry but his words all get jumbled in his insecure Spanish, and Sergio overhears the conversation and Sergio stands up for him.

Anyway tomorrow is the Ajax game, which means Mesut and his wonderful team mates will visit my small and little country. *squeak*
I really hope Mesut gets some more playtime because it would be nice to see him in full color on Dutch television instead of some crappy livestream!

Date: 2012-10-02 08:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinylimequat.livejournal.com
Anyway tomorrow is the Ajax game, which means Mesut and his wonderful team mates will visit my small and little country. *squeak*

You one little lucky [your favourite word here]!

I really hope Mesut gets some more playtime because it would be nice to see him in full color on Dutch television instead of some crappy livestream!

Heartily second that, except Dutch -> Finnish. In full color HD projected on the wall! :)

Oh, and:

Mesut gets angry but his words all get jumbled in his insecure Spanish

Awww!!
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 08:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-03 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorzil.livejournal.com
Haha thanks xD
Oh but one thing that kind of ruins my whole 'oh my god Mesut on Dutch television in technicolor' experience is the fact that I have a volleyball game on the exact time Real will play..
But thank god I got one of those very old fashion televisions who can record on video tapes :D
And I've got a friend who will update me from the sideline haha ;)

Oh and by the way I loved your idea about a fanfic, you should totally write it! If you need any inspiration (like this wonderful post isn't enough:p) I'm glad to help!
xx

Date: 2012-10-03 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinylimequat.livejournal.com
Aw, hopefully you're going to see it eventually, and keep updated while you're having a great game yourself! :) I learned they're not going to show the game tonight on any free channels on Finnish TV, so I went on and bought me a few channels to see every damn game on TV, because I asked "Will it make me happy?" and my bf answered: "Yes, it will." :) So long, streams! :D

And thanks, I'll probably look into getting inspired and writing plenty of fanfic during the weekend! :D

Date: 2012-10-02 03:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] suzanne410.livejournal.com
The whole thing pleases and upsets me at the same time. At least I can say I have a new love and respect for Sergio.

Date: 2012-10-02 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotbegemot3.livejournal.com
Yeap, Sergio is a totally beautiful person. I just like saw him for the first time today xD
About the situation with Mesut being substituted or being a substitute himself: I don't even know what to think, I'm confused.xD From the one hand, Mourinho always used Mesut in the majority of the games and trusted him in the important games. But is it only because he didn't have any alternative? And now there is Modric and, unexpectedly (I think) Kaka came back into the right physical shape. So there are three persons who can be playmakers at the moment.
And, I may just imagine things, but Sami has looked worried in the photos from trainings recently.
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 04:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
On a couple of Madrid blogs an important point was made: because of the arrival of more "defensive" players (Modric counts as one of these), Mourinho has a new lineup for his A team - his 4-3-3 (which he has always preferred). Whether he'll keep using it we'll have to see, it's not a popular lineup with the Bernabeu and would only be attacking enough if he used players the Bernabeu wants to see - but that's his problem.

But what they are saying, essentially: Ozil may need a new team. He may no longer the future direction of this one. Shit happens.

I refuse to panic. It looked this bad last year around this time when Mourinho was, to quote Ray Hudson "refusing to help him and playing terrible mind-games with [him]" and it turned out all right. There was less obscenity and less insult (shouting abuse, substituting him out at half-time) though there was the incident where he was blamed for the clasico loss, specifically and by name. Not the defensive players who let in 3 goals. Not the strikers who missed free headers or open shot on goal. No - just the one German.

The needs of the team always come first, of course. If Mesut no longer suits (and this is not hard to believe - the more delicate, fantasisti players do not do well under Mourinho (Sahin, Granero, Kaka, Canales et al.,)) then he'll simply move on and the team will continue to benefit from players who suit the coach's system better.

That will always be the team's highest priority. I mean - I love Mesut, and I want him at Madrid, but if he doesn't suit the team he doesn't suit the team. The club has to come first.

And that he was so important for two years doesn't mean anything, of course. Only the future direction of the team matters. And frankly, I have to agree with critics who say he is being used stupidly in the lineups. Sometimes it is no one's fault. Sticking "the best number 10 in the world" (I'm quoting Mourinho here) on the wing for 3/4 of the season last year was stupid.

Anyway - he has nothing to worry about either way. Either he plays or he leaves. His wages are nothing compared to what is shelled out in the Prem, or in Italy. He's so cheap even a team like Arsenal (with their wage cap) can afford him - and that means bigger teams can too. Madrid might refuse to sell him to a CL team, but that's the only problem I can foresee if he needs to move on.

Already he's being linked to a bunch of teams who are salivating for him - and with reason. Used properly, as he is in Germany, he's simply the best.

Date: 2012-10-02 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarah5.livejournal.com
This comment is made of awesome. In fact, I have to say that while I love Madrid, and while I would love for Mesut to continue playing a significant role in Madrid, it's true that he's not a natural fit into that system -- and oh hell yes, I would actually really love to see what he can do for a club which suits his style of playing.

(Yeah, he probably wouldn't have a a problem finding a new club. Unfortunately, I don't think the German ones would be able to afford his likely transfer sum which would be, what, around 40 millions? He may need to learn a new language all over again...)

As for Madrid, Jesus, I really hope all the drama will calm down very, very soon. Like yesterday.

Date: 2012-10-02 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
The refusal to use him and this constant blame he gets whenever the team does badly will have dropped his transfer fee down a bit.

Say 30 million? It's not outrageous for Italy or England.

It's up to Mourinho to get the players back on his side. I agree with you. Too much drama. He is occasionally too heavy-handed with this team. He can't treat members of the most successful club, and the most successful national side of all time, the way he can treat players at Chelsea or Inter who are looking for success.

These were big players before he arrived. He's going to have to change the way he behaves, slightly.

Of course as a boarding school product and the daughter of a diplomat I don't like "authority". I believe in a collaborative approach in business and on teams and less obscene screaming on the sidelines. (this is why women are better in business, of course)

Mou has disappointed me this week.

Date: 2012-10-02 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarah5.livejournal.com
I'm always hesitant to criticize the coach because it's often a cheap way to find someone to blame. However, in this case, I agree with you. In fact, I must say that I'm overall not happy with the way Mou is handling this start of the season. His declaration that he "doesn't have a team" made me rather angry because that, now that felt like a very cheap way out. Blaming the team when he's made questionable decisions as well.

That's something which, in my opinion, you just don't do as a coach. When you're the boss, you are always responsible, at least to a certain degree. And unless your team has done something outrageous behind your back, you are fucking obliged to back them up. -- Within reason, mind. But from what I could tell, the team hadn't done anything outrageous which would justify Mou losing all faith in them. And a public spanking may in very few cases spark a positive reaction from the team, but in order for that to happen, a team needs to have confidence in itself, in its inner strength, and that seems to be rather lacking at Madrid at the moment. Mou's public spanking was counterproductive, I think. It was a mistake, and he's made more since. It sometimes felt as if he were trying to find a scapegoat, and Mesut's one candidate.

Sorry. Rambling. In case you couldn't tell, I have strong feelings about team unity and keeping some things behind closed doors. Public criticism is very rarely a good solution, and Mou yelling at Mesut (even though Mesut had a good first half, dammit, I just don't understand it) goes against those feelings.

Eh, right. Stopping now.
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 07:04 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
You'll not be getting an argument from me on this point.

This is not man-management. This is airing dirty laundry in public. And like you I don't agree with that. I consider it bad management. Call it a feminine viewpoint perhaps - but as I said elsewhere, women do better in business than men.

Also there's this constant criticism: Ozil doesn't defend enough. He doesn't score enough.

Really Mou? Which do you want? Do you want him scoring? Or do you want him defending? Because you can't have both. He's not a 6. He's not a box to box midfielder. He's supposed to make things run.

He's not some fucking utility player running up and down the pitch endlessly. Either he's in a position to get the ball and get it forward or score himself, or he's supposed to be helping in defence. Well in that case - change your formation. The man in the hole in the 4-3-2-1 was never meant to be used like that.

I'm beginning to think his reputation for tactical nous may be exaggerated as well. This is not a comment on Mourinho of course, the press give him these qualities. He has never claimed them for himself.

Date: 2012-10-02 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarah5.livejournal.com
Yes, this. In German, there's the expression of "eierlegende Wollmilchsau" (a pig which gives milk and wool while also laying eggs) to demonstrate the impossibility of an all-purposes device -- and it feels as if Mou is asking Mesut to be precisely that. Not gonna work, nope. And it does seem rather unfair at times. (Blaming a player by name, what? No, just not on. Not unless that player is guilty of open, obvious revolt.)

We'll know more after the next couple of games, I guess. Both regarding Mesut and regarding the future look of Madrid -- I'm not a fan of the 4-3-3 system as it tends to be too defensive for my liking (and a team like Madrid should not play with a defensive mindset), but we'll see. Maybe Mou proves us all wrong.

(On a sidenote: Capable female bosses are the best. Love them, adore them, cherish them. I've had two, and both have been splendid.)

Date: 2012-10-02 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotbegemot3.livejournal.com
I see that you are much more familiar with the history of his games for Real Madrid. I only started to deepen into the topic. :)
But he is just such a touching, delicate lad that everything concerning him awakes almost (quoting you) motherly instinct in me.:)And it almost physically hurts when he faces some challenges.
I think Loew as a coach suits Mesut much better. If the rumours about Loew taking the reigns of Real in 2014 come true, I just wish Mesut would stay at this club till that time.
the more delicate, fantasisti players do not do well under Mourinho
I also noticed such a thing. Well, but Mesut is the toughest of all the fragile players in the world of football. He has done good under Mou notwithstanding the harsh times he's gone through (especially at the beginning of the last season). I'm not blaming Mourinho for something. He is just such a type of personality who prefers players like Sami Khedira, Essien (less emotional).

Anyway, time will show. We just need to get some popcorn (or maybe some sedatives) and keep an eye on our lad. And wasn't it Mourinho himself who said this May that Ozil has what it takes to become one of the club's all-time greats and that he will make history at RM?
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 06:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
And wasn't it Mourinho himself who said this May that Ozil has what it takes to become one of the club's all-time greats and that he will make history at RM?

Yes. But Jose talks shit all the time about his players. It's part of his job to build them up.

I don't put too much stock in it. Actions speak louder than words. If the rumours are true and he behaved badly in the locker room (I find the obscenities on the sidelines childish enough) then that's what's important.

Hopefully this will all blow over and it will all soon be forgotten.

Date: 2012-10-02 06:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] suzanne410.livejournal.com
I am slowly coming around to this idea. I thank you for explaining it so well, in a way that someone like me (I tend to think with my heart not with my head!) can understand.

I think I'm just having difficulty dealing with the (apparent) mistreatment. It bothered me after the clasico last year, like you mentioned, and things have bothered me this season as well. I don't agree with singling anyone out, and I feel like this has been the case. And it just seems to go against their "great relationship" that has been promoted in the media. Wasn't it a week ago he was calling Mou Papa?

Date: 2012-10-02 06:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
No - that was January, in an interview.

Mourinho brought it up to explain Essien's use of the term last week.

I do hope Mourinho's much-vaunted man-management skills are really as good as everyone says. We'll have to see, won't we :)

And no - never worry about footballers. Worse case scenario: Mesut doesn't play and still gets paid millions.

There are many more people to waste your sympathy on - and of course another club with snatch him up in no time.

Date: 2012-10-02 08:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] suzanne410.livejournal.com
Ok, so yes, I'm too emotionally involved. It's crossed my mind it may be time for me step out of his world for a bit. Perhaps Mou will be doing me a favor if he stops playing him all together.

One last thought... Any chance Mou typically cusses out his players on the pitch like the video shows, but the media's just making it look worse to further this story, since there's already all this drama surrounding Mesut? Not justifying it of course, but I'd imagine it's not too unusual. What pains me most about it is the fact that I felt like he was trying SO hard. I swear, it looked to me like he was running EVERYWHERE, more than normal, and I was thinking, he's trying to do the right thing (i.e. what Mou wants him to do...). And it still wasn't enough. Very defeating.
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 08:28 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-03 12:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
Any chance Mou typically cusses out his players on the pitch like the video shows, but the media's just making it look worse to further this story, since there's already all this drama surrounding Mesut?

LOL - I give you 15 guesses, as Ray Hudson would say, and your first 14 don't count!

Date: 2012-10-03 04:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jorzil.livejournal.com
Do you have a link of this video? Because durin the game I didn't notice any trouble between Mou,and mesut. Xx

Date: 2012-10-03 06:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotbegemot3.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIY1YFeX5qw

here it is with subtitles in Spanish.
Edited Date: 2012-10-03 08:24 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musetta-246.livejournal.com
Mou has always been a 4-3-3 coach and now he has the right men. It makes me sad to see Mesut "sacrificed" on the pitch to suit Mou's idea of football, not to talk about the shouting abuse.
But what you said it's true, Bernabeu's public is very exigent, they don't like 4-3-3 and they want to see a beautiful game. A journalist once said that Mou was perfect for a team like Inter,important but not "aristocratic". Their only interest was to win the Champions after 45 years and he made it, but playing a very boring and ugly football. Would Real fans be ok with that? Maybe, after all trophies are what matter.
For Mesut probably a new team would be the best thing.
No Serie A, please. I'd love to have him here, but Serie A is in decline and he deserves the best.

Date: 2012-10-02 08:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kotbegemot3.livejournal.com
Thank you, people here, who understand more about football than I do.
If Mou uses 4-3-3 formation and puts Mesut as a winger or benches him, then Mesut better find a better place for his talent.
If the coach changes formations in different matches and gets Ozil enough playing time and uses him in the right position, I'm ok with that=)

There is something going on inside the club. Ronaldo, who can be confident about his situation and is not afraid to be punished, highlighted that with his soy triste. imho. And this Essien's last minute transfer... did the players know he's coming? Just thinking...
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 09:10 pm (UTC)

"Ozil may need a new team"

Date: 2012-10-03 04:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oh-meng.livejournal.com
Thanks!

Started to suspect this but was still resisting the idea. Seeing all this in black & white makes it easier to put things in perspective.

I love Madrid, but that's no reason to not love another team with him in it! I'll be rooting for him all the way, wherever he goes.



Re: "Ozil may need a new team"

Date: 2012-10-03 04:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenny-jenkins.livejournal.com
I have no doubt he's going nowhere, btw - I should have made that clearer.

What I really want to say: he's a highly paid footballer and we worry too much. It's sad not to play, and to be insulted by being subbed off after half a game after playing quite well, but it's not he end of the world either.

I think everyone on this blog who worries about him likely has bigger problems than he does :)

Re: "Ozil may need a new team"

Date: 2012-10-04 11:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skywonder9.livejournal.com
so yeah...i've to admit if I'm one with those problems then, since I'm a die hard fan of him. No regret saying this also, ha!
every few chances he played like I'm going to murder Mou.

This season, gawd, hard season for Mesut. A tough test.
I've got feeling Mesut would highly insist what he's capable in RM. He would struggle so bad...since I follow every games he played, it's so hurtful not seeing him taking part in the first minute. Leaving RM won't be a good idea, leaving only for those who surrender.
Quoting from Mesut once said on interview, he would not hesitate to compete with the new entrants.
I would love to see Mesut prove what he's capable of, struggling for his position...every efforts is worth...until the time he's finally achieve what he's deserve.
Edited Date: 2012-10-04 11:04 am (UTC)

SERZIL IS REAL, PEOPLE.

Date: 2012-10-02 04:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] die4shin-sin.livejournal.com
I won't ruin this wonderful post by pouring out my feelings upon hearing this delightful news, just:

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PS: Gratitude for this, honey! <3

Date: 2012-10-02 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mello-march.livejournal.com
Why do I have the uncanny feeling, Mesut and Sergio won't play much against Amsterdam...

Date: 2012-10-02 07:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tinylimequat.livejournal.com
Wow. Very sweet of Sergio!! Bromance in the air. ;)

Wow for another reason, too. I got a sad feeling when Mesut got substituted, (not just because of not seeing him play anymore, but) thinking there was more to it, and during the other half, watching Modric's play and Sami's great play, my head came up with this fic scene of Mesut being really sad in the locker room after the game and Sami trying to ask if it was something Mourinho had said, and Sergio trying to make him feel better as well :) and Sami comforting him in a very teammatey way when others had left. I even, for once, immediately wrote it down but I thought my head was just wildly breeding plot bunnies as it does, and after all everything was fine and it was just as they said, that Mesut was plainly substituted for tactical reasons (yeah right, but like "we want to see if Modric is as good" and "no need for Mesut to play because he already got the yellow card"). And now I read this, it makes me... want to complete that fic RIGHT NOW. Plus, makes me angry at Mou. From my very subjective pow it seems just that Modric got the yellow card as well.

I hope everyone else stands on Mesut's side as well... no, I hope there will be no need to take sides at all. Please be mature, guys! It's not a sandbox; it's a field of grass :) ...or something. Well, Mesut will be okay anyway, no matter what happens.

P.S. Hehe, I first thought Sergio was referring to fic plot bunnies gotten a bit too loose when he said he would like to clarify a few things. ;D Funny, actually, how they even bother to answer to some rumours in papers. But you know what they say, there's a bit of truth in every joke, and there's a bit of me that refuses to believe that "I happened to wear his shirt because I thought I'd make the goal I promised him long time ago" is quite the whole of the truth. <3
Edited Date: 2012-10-02 07:45 pm (UTC)

Date: 2012-10-02 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladya-sama.livejournal.com
Totally made my day when I saw that he was wearing Mesut's shirt. Didn't care WHY he was wearing. Serzil lives on!!
(Seriously, Sami, get a move on. New season and there's been a helluva lot of Benzil and Serzil and a depressingly low amount of Samisut. Boooo!)

By the way, I just have to ask: what's the story behind the "he's our favourite lesbian" tag? Where the heck did you guys come up with that one?? XD LOL

Date: 2012-10-02 09:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sila-1987.livejournal.com
I dig Sergio for standing up to Mou, not taking his crap and still giving his effing all for the team. I respect him for the public support he bestowed upon Mesut. However .....

I kinda don't like the fact that Sergio got Mesut involved in his effed up relationship with Mou. Mesut doesn't really come off as a confrontational player (might actually be the reason why Sergio did what he did)unlike Sergio. Problem is Mesut is not one of the "untouchable" players (IMO Sergio is) and i really don't think it's good for him to get on Mou's wrong side. I know that Mesut is never personally mentioned in the article, nor is there any story of a break in his relationship with Mou BUT the fact that his name was mentioned in the story at all must not be a good thing. Mou isn't someone who forgives and forgets without at least getting back at a player; and though indirectly involved in Mou's recent shenanigans with Ramos i won't be surprised if Mou singles Mesut out for that too.

OK so i watched the Cuatro video recapping the match, and yeah i get that he was too harsh on Mesut, i too thought he was actually playing well that night (the Modric/ Mesut pairing wasn't all bad, but it seems like if you pair up Mesut with a player of good quality (Reus, Goetze, Kaka and now Modric) he flourishes. I read somewhere that there was some sort of obscenity used but apart from his constant use of "joder", there was nothing obscene directed at Mesut (there was his use of "parado", a word that is not part of my spanish vocabulary so don't really know if it could be interpreted as something bad). Hence it really didn't mean anything more than it was ..... a coach vocalizing his deep/utter displeasure at a players' performance.

IMO there could be two sides to Mou's attitude towards Mesut:

It's either he's trying to break him down, affect his performances, get the media/fans/club directives to doubt him WHILST building up Modric. Why? Because Modric was his choice signing (and i read he cost almost double what Mesut cost when he first signed on) and for that he has to succeed.

The other scenario is that he understands how important Mesut is for Madrids' style of play and like anyone else he is frustrated and pissed off that Mesut has not been up to par at all this season (even my Barcelona loving mom pointed out that Real Madrid haven't been able to get back to last year's rhythm of things and she thinks that Mesut's drop in form is a primary reason why). Mesut had the same dip in form in the beginning of last season but at least he did have a couple of shining moments; this season it's been awful in every minute he's played for Real. I disagree with you on one thing; i don't think Mou is trying to revert back to his beloved 4-3-3 formation because he knows how much the fans hate it (this is not the premier or italian league after all; having a team playing the way Barcelona play you need to come up with your own satisfying style of play to appease the fans; grinding out results doesn't just cut it for the Madrid fans .... Real Madrid has to compete with Barcelona on every level) and he has said it plenty of times this season, he wants his team to play the way they did last year ....... and Mesut is a vital component of that system (whether Mou likes or not) and it's still too early for Modric (plus i really don't think that counter attacks and fast plays is something Modric excels at). Is Mou taking the correct approach, i honestly don't think so, it might work for a different player but Mesut needs a more personal/emotional type of approach (Mou would do well to get tips from our beloved Jogi). I stil hold out hope, that we will get our old Mesut back, it may take time but i know he'll come back from this stronger; he did last season and i hope it happens this season too (hopefully soon).

I need to finish this off by saying that in my honest and attempted unbiased opinion ...... I kinda feel Modric is overrated up until now i have not seen anything from him that has shown me is at the same/ or even better level than Mesut. I was shocked that he got the standing ovation he got after the Depor match because i felt like he was absent for most of the action.


Date: 2012-10-02 11:24 pm (UTC)
ext_471285: (Wink!Mesut)
From: [identity profile] flywoman.livejournal.com
I don't think "parado" was being used as an insult - it just refers to the ball being "stopped," both when Mou decided to kick it (wtf??) and when he yelled at Mesut for not getting into the area in time and allowing it to be snatched up by the other team.

Date: 2012-10-03 03:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tenshi-who.livejournal.com
"Parado" means "stopped", but it also means "standing", which is the way Mou was using it to refer to Mesut. He said "parado" when Mesut didn't get to the ball. Later he said something like "parado con el balón al pie", which in this case he meant Mesut was "standing waiting for the ball to come to him." Basically he was criticizing Mesut for only reacting to where the ball was going instead of actively running toward it.

Sorry for the Spanish lesson, guys. Just wanted to clear that part up. :)

Also, nowhere in the video was Mou cursing AT Mesut; all of his "joder"'s and "caralho"'s where just at the situation, as well as the other explative. Most of it was tame, and I use that kind of language all the time (however I'm not a manager who is in the public eye 24/7, so it's different).

Date: 2012-10-03 03:26 am (UTC)
ext_471285: (Wink!Mesut)
From: [identity profile] flywoman.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Thank you!

Date: 2012-10-03 04:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] natsandbolts.livejournal.com
A-ha, clarification! Thank you :)

Your comment leaves me wondering if a lot of this situation is muddied by language barriers and terrible Spanish "publications." Way too much speculation and unknowns for me to make a judgment call yet. But it is great to see the Serzil bromance continue to blossom.

Re: Thank you!

Date: 2012-10-03 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tenshi-who.livejournal.com
A LOT of this could be remedied by proper translation! The worst part is when the Spanish press publishes "stories" and the English/American press take it as fact, when they could have just looked at an interview, translated it themselves, and seen that there's a completely different situation going on. But that's the press for you.

The only good thing to come out of this is more Serzil!

Date: 2012-10-03 08:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sweetubi.livejournal.com
Conjecture - is what the Marca did of the thing they published in the paper, they tend to take the worst possible scenario out of little observation that they see.

They no longer have the acces they had before Mourinho, well may be not even then but surely less now. If there is anything, they surely make it bigger than what it is.

Though i can at least see that Mou not satisfied with Mesut, but then again nor did I. He is not bad but not to his standard. We expect more from our magician.

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